Like the rest of the Malaysian public, I am aware of your lack of regard for authority, social propriety and moral sobriety. I will therefore not be surprised if this open letter is retorted with blatant rudeness; perhaps the best thing you can do is to simply ignore it all together. But given the context in which we Malaysians are presently living, what you’ve done cannot be dismissed without a voice of dissent from a fellow Malaysian.
You may wonder why I, of all people, would choose to take the time to write this tedious response to the video you’ve posted of yourself chanting the Muslim Azan bare-bodied with the accompaniment of a keyboard. It may not have been your intention to disdain the idea of religious practice as a whole, but it is utterly offensive all the same because despite your mockery depicting a particular religion, the spirit of your practice constitutes a brutal assault against religion itself. Such mockery attacks, in a very personal way, not just our Muslim friends but also peoples of all religions in the world who have their unique ways of expressing their desire to reach for the Divine. Your mockery might as well be a depiction of the Catholic Latin chants or the Hindu chanting of the vedas, and either way, the fundamental principle of respect for the religious conscience of our fellow neighbours would have been severely violated. For this, your act makes me angry. Further to that, if it was merely the Muslims in Malaysia you have sought to offend or despise, you are grossly mistaken in your reading of the Malaysian situation. I wish you had taken more time to analyse and understand what is going on in our country and sought to engage constructively rather than doing it in such an undignifed manner. From a very young age, I’ve had deep respect for the vast majority of Muslims I’ve known. I’ve respected their love for God, their devotion to their families, and particularly, I’ve often admired the way Muslim children are taught to relate with their parents. In my personal life and faith today, I make it a point to practise what I have come to understand from my Muslim friends about the importance of reverence towards God and our elders, and also the vitality of community living. I believe that living among Muslims all these years has made me a much better Christian than I would otherwise have been. I don’t think you meant to mock the kind of well-meaning Muslims I’ve just described. Perhaps you were reacting towards the politicisation of religion in Malaysia and meant to spite the select few who have misused religion for certain political agendas. In the first place, the way you have done it brings no good to the cause of many of us who have staked our lives in choosing to stay on in this country to participate in the rebuilding of the nation in a constructive and positive way. In the second place, your act has attacked not just the perpetrators of political religion but also the vast majority of Malaysians who are peacefully simply loving God or practising their religions in the best ways they know how. Despite the many alleged prospects of a better life for us and for our next generation had we moved out of the country, many of us have chosen to stay because this is where we were born and this is where we want our children to grow up. We choose this, not because there are no perils confronting us in the country, but because we want to be committed to a hope for a better Malaysia. Because of this, we have chosen to engage in the most constructive possible ways and not cause further social and political damage to our fellow Malaysians only to seek asylum elsewhere while leaving everyone else back home to face the mess we’ve created. You have mocked everything that we stand for with our lives. Freedom of expression is necessary indeed for a society to progress, as it allows for society to be imbued with a mechanism of self-critique and self-reflection. But there can also be such a thing as an irresponsible and immature freedom of expression that exploits this virtuous principle by bringing damage to truth, beauty and goodness that can be found in a civilisation. I respectfully but truthfully submit that you are guilty of the latter moral crime. For this, I feel sorry that you have chosen to showcase such a grossly disrespectful act against our Muslim friends. In a personal capacity and as a Malaysian, I strongly renounce every such act that you have committed and may continue to commit. And I affirm my deep reverence for all well-meaning Malaysians who hold on fast to teachings that are true and holy in their religious beliefs and practices. And I pray that one day, you too will come to this awareness in your conscience that the last thing Malaysia needs right now is another source of division, and a very unnecessary one at that. Your video recording, which is more narcissistic than it is funny or entertaining, is a spite on all our efforts to build a better society for our children of all religions. All this notwithstanding, I wish you a good life in America where your expression can be truly free. But ultimately, it is not the exercise of such privileges and rights that determines the quality of a man. The kind of people we are, or become, is determined by little choices we make every day to seek peace, love, and friendship with our neighbours even when there is no advantage to be gained for ourselves. The Rev. Deacon Dr Sherman Kuek OFS A Deacon of the Catholic Church in Malaysia Note: This letter is written on my own accord and represents neither the Catholic Church nor any other institution affiliated with me.
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Dr. Sherman, thank you for this letter. Appreciate that you take the initiative to compose this letter. You express the thought, concern and prayers of multitude of Malaysians including those from Sabah and Sarawak who aspire to build a better Malaysia for the present & future generation.
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aishah
22/4/2015 09:05:22 pm
Alvin,
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syarafah
24/4/2015 08:20:41 am
I pray that Allah open Alvin's heart to embrace Islam. Amin.
Leslie T
24/4/2015 11:04:08 am
Aishah, I am a Chinese Christian but I find Alvin Tan's action uncalled for and dispecable.. ! I too believe firmly in Freedom of Action and Speech, but this does not include allowing one to criticise other's religion in such a crude disgraceful manner..! No..I don't support his view, nor condone it..!
mohamad fadzil hitam
23/4/2015 12:51:51 am
Dear James Lau,I am in agreement with you that Dr Sherman has correctly expressed the real feelings of sound minded Malaysian in general.I don't Alvin will be well received in USA itself with the kind of attitude he potrays.To me he is just inviting trouble and danger for himself and his family if he continues to be abusive as such to a religion embraced by billions the world over.Let us all be moderate and live in peace and harmony.
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Chandran Sukumaran
23/4/2015 02:45:09 am
Alwin's rendition of the Azan may be appreciated by American Muslims who understand soul music.
Siew
22/4/2015 09:23:48 am
Congratulations Sherman, you have given Alvin exactly what he wants. A response.
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Joan Ismail
22/4/2015 08:22:27 pm
Does he understand what u trging to say bro as he had done this over n over again like a brain less person despite his passport being revoke
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Ian
24/4/2015 06:54:09 am
It was a response, but not one aimed solely to challenge the evil which was done, but also to encourage and speak for those who are disgusted with the act. I'm sure all like-minded Malaysians will feel better that Sherman has put in words our feelings which we may not have been able to express as succinctly. I personally don't care if Alvin reads this or not, but sincerely hope that all Malaysians do.
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geraldine casey
22/4/2015 10:27:49 am
Deacon, I totally agree with u. I was unable to expressed my disgust of his action in well though written by you.
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jacob mathew
23/4/2015 04:02:27 pm
I hope that he is NOT a Christian. This is not taught or preached in Christianity. Christ is love not sowing seeds of anger and hatred. If he repeats this again, make sure he gets the proper punishment. To all Muslims, so sorry that there is a jerk and moron amongst the human race. God bless us all.
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Kian
24/4/2015 04:41:34 am
Christianity is a good and peaceful religion. Christianity teaches you that it's right for you to sacrifice your son because God commanded so, Christianity teaches you to believe in things that can't be proven, Christianity teaches you to believe in miracles that are supposedly revealed to only a small handful of people and still expect everyone else to believe without evidence. Christianity teaches you to believe in the story of Noah and the ark even though it's proven that it impossible to fit everything, everyone in there for a year. Christianity teaches you that the world is only 6000 years old.
friends of nature
24/4/2015 08:43:21 am
Dear all,
Azimah Rahim
22/4/2015 10:48:36 am
Thank you, Dr Sherman Kuek, from the bottom of my heart.
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23/4/2015 01:26:34 am
And so do I. For the sake of our 😍 to our Fellow Malaysians in keeping the Muhibbah Spirits.
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23/4/2015 01:28:35 am
And so do I. For the sake of our 😍 on upkeeping our Muhibbah Spirits.
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Julie Papu
22/4/2015 11:14:54 am
So well written. Thankyou dr. Sherman. I pray that Alvin will find at least a shred of conscience in him and realise what injustice he has done to his parents by his actions.
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Kian
22/4/2015 11:19:32 am
Dear Dr. Sherman,
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22/4/2015 11:45:57 am
Well written .What Alvin did is totally WRONG.Sure he is not a Catholic though he has a cross tattoo on his chest
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SamSmith
22/4/2015 02:28:43 pm
that cross does not represent Christianity. It's just a fashion statement.
J
22/4/2015 03:08:17 pm
Sam, unfortunately that is a gross misrepresentation of a cross. It is in fact, a Nazi iron cross with a nazi swastika logo tattooed on his chest.
Mr Lusec
22/4/2015 01:25:22 pm
In response to "Kian",
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me
23/4/2015 12:47:03 am
Well said..
wkiong
23/4/2015 02:54:38 am
Alvin does not think n feel along with you n most. He does not care because he has chosen to offend.
Herb
23/4/2015 03:26:37 am
In response to "Mr.Lusec",
ryn
23/4/2015 04:47:53 am
well said
Kian
23/4/2015 06:02:46 am
Firstly, you and I have completely different stances. You are probably a theist and I'm an Atheist. What you consider sacred to us is nothing more than man-made fiction. So do not have me live by your standards. No one forced these emotionally affected people to watch that video. They chose it out of their "free will" to watch it and be offended.
cojack
24/4/2015 03:04:03 am
am totally agreed with you Mr Lusec
madison
24/4/2015 08:45:39 am
I agree with u mr.lusec..
aha
22/4/2015 01:26:05 pm
why is it so typical of an atheist to respond like this? You're saying so many needles things. He had disregard for other people's faith and it is him being rude and it is his fault. I'm an atheist to and all I can say is that your morals are all over the place. Twat would be an ideal word.
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Doreen Robson
22/4/2015 02:45:26 pm
aha...thank you. To kian
respect lah
23/4/2015 11:05:23 am
Kian and Alvin
Kian
23/4/2015 12:48:26 pm
@aha: Moral or not, needless or not. It's not your say. Its mine.
Harry
22/4/2015 02:20:41 pm
Agree. Well said. It's jus a different perspective.
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orakash
23/4/2015 04:52:39 pm
Kian,
Kian
24/4/2015 04:45:34 am
@orakash you're just making yourself sound exceptionally stupid. Religions are everywhere and is affecting people's life whether they are believers or not, and therefore I can rightfully make my decision whether to respect of disrespect it. My mother on the other hand has not revealed herself to you, therefore your claim does not stand.
facepalm
22/4/2015 02:35:42 pm
Dear Kian,
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Pat Lu
22/4/2015 05:40:53 pm
Well said FacePalm. How I wish there's a "like" button for this comment!
Diana
23/4/2015 12:48:16 am
Very true indeed.
Kian
23/4/2015 06:12:54 am
Dear Facepalm,
Getsby
23/4/2015 08:36:42 am
<<Kian, In spite of our differentiating points on the argument, I approve your reply. All the other replies say something, but NONE OF THEM has challenged the validity of the claim that has been brought. Kudos to you maintaining a steady hand despite these 'hit-and-run- posts.
ikhmal
24/4/2015 05:23:56 am
wow just wow, good comments.
MHZ
22/4/2015 02:39:30 pm
For a bunch of people who don't believe in God, smug atheists (as opposed to plain ol' don't kacau other people atheists) spends a lot of time and effort to put God down.
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memummy
23/4/2015 04:30:23 am
Cant agree more ... dun believe God exist, dats fine .. to bring another religion down n being such insult .. dats low, bro ... low
Habibul Amani
22/4/2015 03:02:18 pm
So atheist "do not have to show respect". Pls define that statement, does it mean "must be rude"?
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Kian
23/4/2015 06:15:26 am
Respect is not determined by you. Some certain religion have shown no respect to the vegan/vegetarian community when they still practice the slaughtering of cows as a holy ritual. How about that?
Wak
22/4/2015 03:11:42 pm
Dude, your an atheist. Yeah thats fine. But do know that you live in a country that have a system and that particular system is guided by the federal constitution. And that kind of insulting act is clearly wrong based on this written law made by human. You said respect has to be earned, what made you think that you deserve any respect from anyone if you yourself does not respect the system
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Iwin
22/4/2015 04:04:29 pm
agreed with u wak, tq.
Iskandar
22/4/2015 03:12:22 pm
Dear Kian,
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Brain_disrupter
22/4/2015 06:10:23 pm
If atheists are to keep to ourselves and talk only among atheist friends, why is it that religious propaganda are being shown on TV?
Kian
23/4/2015 06:18:35 am
Dear Iskandar,
hello
24/4/2015 02:03:51 am
Hi don't think u can say he is coward. I think he is very brave bcos he knoWS he can easily be targeted by retaliation.
Gabriel
22/4/2015 04:15:53 pm
You do not speak for all atheist, fuck tard. By the way, respect has been earned, muslims or the religious are people....they are individuals who think, who bleeds, who exist. Does that in itself not merit some consideration, some respect? Don't assume to represent the whole group, when your opinion is really, just your opinion. And no "Alvin didn't do just that". there are laws prohibiting religious harassment and ridicule.
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Kian
23/4/2015 06:19:46 am
Thanks for calling me names. By the way, you don't get to determine if respect has been earned or not.
Just like your face
22/4/2015 04:23:47 pm
Kian, you as an atheist, you mock us Atheist a lot. The other religion were already not disturbing us, and now you're saying it's okay for Atheist to mock other religion because we don't believe in one? You just ridicule yourself a lot.
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Getsby
23/4/2015 08:42:55 am
In the same way atheists are passively condemned into the pits of hell, deemed 'khafir,' or ostracised into being deviants by ALL abrahamic religions(Christian denominations & Islam), do you, "Just like your face" not consider this treatment to be mockery?
Meor
22/4/2015 04:36:13 pm
............. You will find the people most affectionate to those who have iman are those who say, ‘We are Christians.’ That is because some of them are priests and monks and because they are not arrogant. (Surat al-Ma'ida, 82)
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Rosli Pakngah
22/4/2015 04:37:13 pm
Assalam mualaikum to all my muslim bros and sis and Hi Kian and everyone who are non muslims. I strongly think Alvin Tan is trying to convert himself to be a muslim coz he is very interested to recite the muslim's prayer call. So.... thank you Alvin Tan on your effort but please approach us muslims and learn on how to be converted to Islam. Thank you Kian for highlighting this. Maybe you would also want to be converted to Islam. Thank you.
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Pak Reec
22/4/2015 06:56:32 pm
Pak Ngah...I have this feeling that Alvin is already a Muslim.He uttered the Syahadah there rite? Maybe im wrong but thats what I think laa...
Adim
23/4/2015 10:52:01 am
Suruh Alvin belajar pakai seluar dan baju dulu, Pak Rosli. Baru ngam belajar pasal Islam
meor
22/4/2015 04:42:48 pm
you will find those who said religion is a myth to be among the atheist they call religious people as intolerant and crazy but wait until you condemn evolutionism they'll become crazy about it and not willing to compromize..i just tweet about how the malaysian government should stop teaching students about evolutionism and all of a sudden the evolutionist started bombarding me with their convictions in which it still remain as a theory instead of fact.
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Marcud
23/4/2015 12:42:48 am
Actually it is kinda more or less proven. Don't get me wrong I have a religion too but let's not get confused between reliogionband science. One is based on logic and rationality while the other on personal faith. Hell o would be pissed to if gomen took away theory of evolution from the books.
Roger
22/4/2015 05:13:17 pm
Great Writing Kian, "respect has to be earned"
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Zikri
22/4/2015 06:23:14 pm
Atheist or not if your living with or around another human being you have got to learn to respect each orher and co-exist. If someone came up to you and make fun of your mother or your wife you will be furious about it let alone making fun of someone elses believes.
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Kian
24/4/2015 08:59:47 am
True. But the problem is that you don't realise that religion has been going around offending and disrespecting me on a daily basis.
Amoxi
22/4/2015 06:54:10 pm
Dear Mr. Kian,
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Rose
22/4/2015 07:12:07 pm
In respond to Kian,
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Getsby
23/4/2015 08:57:42 am
"To allow things to just be" isn't respect, its tolerance. Respect here, if I may contradict you, is the admiration of the make-up, form, character and qualities of the subject. The strength of that respect is gauged by the strengh of the admiration. The more admirable a person's attributes are, the more they are respected. Attributes like fear, authority and character.
minimoe
22/4/2015 07:37:10 pm
@Kian
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hello
24/4/2015 02:15:49 am
I think I m beginning to see Kian's point. By using example such as shouldn't vegans feel insulted by Hindus eating meat he is using an analogy. Like cars parked on a Friday situation he is not saying he is offended,but rather pointing to the fact that if we choose to feel offended,there's a million n one things we can be offended. Just my thots n I m Christian.
KC Chew
22/4/2015 09:46:55 pm
I am an atheist myself but even I don't agree with Kian. Saying The blame should be placed on the viewers themselves is akin to saying that if somebody throws an insult at you or your family, all you need to do is ignore it and everything will be OK. If you close your ears to the insults, then you would not be offended.
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Getsby
23/4/2015 09:19:22 am
As one atheist to another, we both know everyone considers themself moderate until they're challenged. In light of the mob mentality of society, I'd say your comparison of throwing an insult to family or self is not on the same scale at all. I don't really agree with all the points Kian has raised, but if you think about it, hasn't your tolerance to all the bits religion that have affected you in life QUALIFY to closing your own ears? When a religion runs the presupposition that YOU, KC Chew, is a heathen/khafir who is going to hell? Do you respect or TOLERATE that?
Yeah right
24/4/2015 01:00:40 pm
Dear Getsby,
happy
23/4/2015 12:16:19 am
Dear Kian. True indeed about the atheist things and yes, about the atheist can expressed their ideology of Godless, can do whatever they want inside the boundaries are totally relevant. But the irrelevant things are, why do you and Alvin were being such arrogant? Can simply disrespect others faith? If I don't believe in atheism, can I just insult the atheists? Even, if you don't care, our religion told us to be respectful to others, care about others feeling. This is where religion works. Religion give you guidance about what is right and what is wrong. Even us cannot understand fully about how our body function. Before this, there are no scientific explanation about the bad effects of being alcoholic, doing open sex, gambling, stealing etc, but religion already mentioned about it thousands years ago. I have lots of things to tell you but in short stop saying that if you don't believe in something, you have the license to disrespect others who believe it and lastly, having faith in religion will not make you weak, it will make you strong, give you hope, guidance and spirit to live out the best life in this world. Anyway, you can do more research on how even some top professor left their atheism and embrace a religion. I understand for you not to believe in religion maybe because you're still not see the right one. Try to do deep study on Islam. I'm sure you'll find the most logical religion that will suit your mind. Highly recommended. Bye
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Jet
23/4/2015 01:00:35 am
If you got slapped and you react out of anger, then it is your fault coz you are too sensitive and weak.
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Mia
23/4/2015 01:44:37 am
Atheist or not, we are all taught to have manners. Honestly, there are so many other things to sing, but why choose something that is specifically related to someone's religion?
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Thomas
23/4/2015 02:19:17 am
yes, you are just as low moral as Alvin.
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SYed
23/4/2015 02:35:06 am
Keeping my comment short for you so that it's clear and precise;
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wkiong
23/4/2015 02:46:51 am
You were just as eloquent with your response. I am not an atheist, I believe in the ever expanding creative intelligence called GOD but i don't believe in religion even if I accept that many people need it to feel safe.
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linda
23/4/2015 03:24:50 am
Kian,
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waliauyeh
23/4/2015 03:54:00 am
You are totally right about your view, kian, but if what you do results in someone else to be upset and that makes you happy? I don't see how you are making the world a better place.
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IAmAnAnimator.
23/4/2015 04:14:18 am
"To us atheist, God is a fictional figure no different from Batman or Superman" My that sounds like joke in putting God's name in the line of fictional superheroes from comic books and movies lol. Pretty much of an oxymoron's comment that is.
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BCP
23/4/2015 04:25:45 am
Why don't you suggest to alvin tan to make some musical rendition from some jewish holy prayers and let see how the people in the US take it.
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Canon
23/4/2015 06:35:37 am
Simple words to describe you, Kian:
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Isa
24/4/2015 03:13:09 am
I agree with you!
Danny Quest
23/4/2015 07:57:58 am
If God truly does not exist to you, then your comment means nothing. Think about it, deeply. By giving a comment here you are doing nothing except expressing whats on your mind. You've helped no one, not even yourself.
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ngtitao
23/4/2015 10:48:39 am
I do not know what you are smoking, but being an atheist doesn't mean you should go around showing disrespect to other religions. It is wholly contradicting that while you demand respect is earned, do you start by showing disrespect until it is earned? Then, should anyone meeting you first time should start insulting you, your parents or what not that concerns you, until you show what you are made of, and whether it meets the aggressor standard that you've earn the respect? Without believing in god, one should still know showing little respect to anyone is a courtesy itself, unless you admit apart from being an atheist, you are also a selfish dude who do what you please without regards for law. I can understand if one is totally illiterate and brought up in the jungle, but clearly you shouldn't be one, aren't you?
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Andytan
23/4/2015 11:57:47 am
Will you be offended if I post in social media Kian's (or whatever your name is) father is a stupid idiot that brought up his child to be a useless scum of society just like Alvin? If you feel offended by that and feel like reacting then you understand that even as an athiest, you do not deserve the rights to insult or do anything that you think is right because you do not live in an Island. We live in a society that is made up of different individuals and if you are unhappy with that, please find yourself an island and make friends with the coconuts that don't care if you sing the coconut song without wearing pants.
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Andy
23/4/2015 12:08:40 pm
Will you get offended if i said in social media that your father is a total idiot useless human being for raising a dimwit, real scum of society? If you feel offended by that then you understand that even as an athiest, you are living in a society that is made up of different individual and you simply cannot do whatever you like. If you want to do what you like, you can go live in an island and make friends with the coconuts that will not be offended by you singing the coconut song without wearing any pants.
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Canon
23/4/2015 12:39:50 pm
Kian, you are:
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Muslim
23/4/2015 03:56:15 pm
Dear Kian,
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Kian
24/4/2015 04:53:04 am
Dear Muslim,
steve
24/4/2015 01:25:41 am
Kian,
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Kian
24/4/2015 04:53:45 am
Please, either educate yourself or stop making yourself look stupid. Religion isn't a race. Get over it.
J.O
24/4/2015 05:20:41 am
Dear Kian,
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Kian
24/4/2015 07:04:28 am
Dear J.O,
Elbarto
24/4/2015 06:58:29 am
@Kian,
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jd
24/4/2015 03:42:25 pm
Kian,
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So edgy
25/4/2015 03:12:45 pm
So edgy, Mr. Kian. Do you also feel euphoric, disgusted with the unenlightened masses, wears fedoras and says m'lady a lot?
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Yao
25/4/2015 03:17:53 pm
Dear Kian,
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Saira
28/4/2015 08:09:28 pm
Great words, Yao.
Tracy
22/4/2015 11:26:55 am
Thank you for articulating my thoughts in words.
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Mariamah
22/4/2015 11:40:24 am
Thank you Dr Sherman, I struggled to understand why Alvin did that. I hope I can forgive him.
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Dear Mariamah,
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maria
23/4/2015 06:20:15 am
Kian. ....the issue is mocking someone you look up to...you love...your idol.....what if someone do the same to your mom....your wife....your family etc...mocking them.....will you then give the same response?
Maria
24/4/2015 04:59:56 am
@maria
Jacob
22/4/2015 11:54:32 am
Kian, one day when someone insults you personally you would re-think about what you said.
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Ashley
22/4/2015 12:22:51 pm
Good one!
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Dora
22/4/2015 01:02:19 pm
Agreed!
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rudy
22/4/2015 02:29:37 pm
indeed!
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Fozzy Osmand
22/4/2015 12:09:05 pm
Your small pin surely goes straight in hia heart.
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Suzie
22/4/2015 12:24:52 pm
Thank Mr Sherman. I am glad that there are still person who respect others...all religion taught good things ..only people who always use religion as a tools to cause hatred..
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Leo Antony
22/4/2015 12:49:28 pm
thank you Rev so very much for such a deserving letter that best describes our Malaysian views on that sadistic parody . Needless to say it is a cowardice act . That person needs counseling immediately because if not something Malaysian such idle mind is the devils workshop that will move on to other atrocities even in his choice of migration . The usa will suffer with the likes of this
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ahmad farhan
22/4/2015 12:55:02 pm
Thanks a bunch Dr Sherman. I'm grateful of what u did. Even i'm a muslim ,instead of being hyper reactive (nevertheless of course i'm angry of what he did) but before we do something to him legally, we should understand he has its own cause of action. Then if he is being stubborn or his main goal of doing this and his series of action before are bad, then I without doubt agree for the authority to take action. Regardless of what belief u are in, Islam, Christian, Buddha or atheist, please do no be a complete buffon just to offend somebody. Even if it not one that u respect. We are all pacifist, we do not want any grudge or chaos happen when it should not be. Morally speaking, it is a deceitful thing to do. But i think for Alvin maybe as u said dr sherman, Mr Alvin has same bad experience, or cynical observation towards the world today or maybe grudge towards muslim. It is personal and in accord towards how ones should observe. No hindrance
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pomme
22/4/2015 01:09:29 pm
Well written open letter. But then again why bother. He is nothing but an imbecile. A childish fool who thinks he's invincible just because he gets to parade his idiocy from a foreign land. As a Muslim i am not in any way offended by what he did. Why even bother responding. Why even bother stooping down to his level.
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marie
22/4/2015 05:17:11 pm
I think it wasnt 'bother' wht Rev. Sherman did.. it was bcz he cares.. for Alvin.. for all the other people.. for a still-liveable country..
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Sheriaza
22/4/2015 11:18:39 pm
I very much agree with you pomme.
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Getsby
23/4/2015 09:21:48 am
Well you sound pretty offended.
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sashi
22/4/2015 01:30:37 pm
Don't be arrogant by saying I will say whatever I like abt other people's religion since I am an atheist. Dat is stupidity & lack respect to others. Use common sense & learn to respect people's sensitivity.
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Ahmad Syafiq
22/4/2015 01:34:12 pm
Dear Mr Sherman..thank you so much..fron bottom of my heart...
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muslimah
22/4/2015 01:35:25 pm
Terima kasih tuan.
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Ika
22/4/2015 02:48:50 pm
word!
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ada
22/4/2015 01:41:06 pm
Thank you dr. I feel lke humanity restored when I read ur letter. We need more people like you. Be it muslim,christian,hindu,budhist or any religion we should live in peace. I'm so sad over the matter that happened in oir country over religions issue the past few days. As we progresses yo become a better world, the humanity values deteriorated. What have we become ? Since when we let the politicians issue ruin the harmonity in our life. I love every malaysians so I wish we will all be united and live in harmony.
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22/4/2015 01:46:21 pm
The very definition of freedom of expression includes the freedom to insult or offend. For every belief can and will insult someone.
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Duhhh
22/4/2015 01:48:09 pm
Agree with Kian, somehow. And perhaps Alvin should have a Disclaimer / Warning before the video starts...sensitive people can choose to not watch it. Peace.
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ibrahim
22/4/2015 01:54:27 pm
Congratulations and thank you Dr.Sherman.. your explanation make me proud to be Malaysian..this is the right way to counter back to a person that know nothing about peace among other religions in Malaysia..keep up a good work!
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WESWM
22/4/2015 01:57:58 pm
Very well written. Thank you Dr Sherman Kuek. Someday of I were to meet you, I will personally thank you for the open letter. Bravo.
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Dr. Patricia Anthony
22/4/2015 02:09:31 pm
Thank you Dr. Sherman. We are utterly outraged by Alvin Tan's video. You wrote what lies within our heart.
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Anna T
22/4/2015 02:20:44 pm
In response to Kian:
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rudy bluehikari
22/4/2015 02:30:43 pm
Thank you Dr Sherman.
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Farida
22/4/2015 02:33:50 pm
This Alvin is either mentally ill or simply a coward.
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OSK
22/4/2015 05:27:59 pm
I totally agree with you farida. I have tried to live the best I can with people of all religious faiths and show respect. I should say he is 'biadab'
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Georgina
23/4/2015 01:05:47 pm
he is a major coward & a good for nothing. peace to all religion.
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zaid ahmad
22/4/2015 03:12:42 pm
Thank you Sir
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siti
22/4/2015 03:17:44 pm
Forgive him.. For he just not understand (yet).. @Mr Sherman, keep up.. :)
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badrulsham mansor
22/4/2015 03:42:25 pm
Alvin is having a fun time making malays upset. He is wrong. Malays are not upset. Muslims all over the world are upset. That includes in USA! You just gave out your address to the world. Watch your back bro.
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nurul ashikin pasqual
22/4/2015 03:42:38 pm
Thank you Rev. Deacon Dr Sherman!!
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L P
22/4/2015 03:52:45 pm
The only thing that I see he did wrong was being shirtless. It looks like he sang it from his heart and he sounded good. That tattoo on his chest looks like a west coast chopper logo instead of a cross. I think people needs to move on. Too much drama..
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Aida
22/4/2015 04:00:44 pm
Well said Dr. Sherman. Hats off!
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DonnaG
22/4/2015 04:07:31 pm
Tq For the Wonderful comment Dr Sherman...
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amy
22/4/2015 04:09:06 pm
You make me believe in Malaysians again. I am a Muslim, and your letter gave me hope that we all can live together and embrace our differences
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Farah
22/4/2015 05:03:10 pm
Dr. Sherman, thank you so much forthis open letter. I do hope that idiot-attention seeker Alvin read this message. He may not react publicly about this but I guess at least this message give a punch to his face.
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jason
22/4/2015 05:08:37 pm
I may be only guessing. But from many times of what Alvin done in the past, i observed some connection between his current action with latest unfair incident happened in Malaysia. As for this time, i felt that he just want to purposely do this 'singing' to let those demonstrator know the feeling of being insulted on the religion issue. He may just want to aim to insult this small group of people or those fanatic thinking people about insulting other religion. May be the way is not appropriate. But i think he not meant to hurt the rest of the muslims.
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Suhardi Bin Razali
22/4/2015 05:32:41 pm
I am very very worried with the increasing cross bordering of another faith by people who I believe are mostly those who are unfortunately have not even started reading their own holy books let alone understand them. I guess the religious authorities form the respective religion, be they the Islamic Body, Christian, Buddhist or Hindu Association need to take concrete step t address this unhealthy development. Meanwhile, parents and teachers too must play their role responsibly. DO NOT TALK ABOUT ANOTHER RELIGION BUT RATHER STRENGTHEN YOUR OWN BELIEF. THAT IS BETTER.
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Amal
23/4/2015 12:01:12 am
Alvin seorang yang berjiwa kosong, semuga diberi hidayah. Dr Shermon terima kasih.
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Peter Lee
22/4/2015 05:38:44 pm
Alvin is just a spoil brat....! Time to grow up & don't give more problems to your parents & your fellow country men.....!
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zaki
22/4/2015 05:54:10 pm
Let me write in Bahasa ? Ingatlah! sesungguhnya hidayah itu dari Allah kerana DIA Yang Maha Menghendaki! dan DIA Yang Maha Tahu ! dan DIA Maha Berkuasa atas segala galanya! Alvin mungkin dipilih.tiada siapa tahu kerana ruh itu milik ROBB(Tuhan)
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Dr Sera
22/4/2015 06:22:09 pm
I am so glad that my outraged is being published ....god grieves! so many ill people .... Alvin ...Please stay there. We dont need you. SHAME ON YOU !!!!
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Philosoraptor
22/4/2015 06:39:03 pm
Makes me wonder if there's an open letter to Alvin because he's an easy target, hmm. I don't see an open letter to the IGP with regards to the removal of the cross. Afraid much?
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Bob yusoff
22/4/2015 07:09:36 pm
Well written,thanks for the good words,peace
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khalid
22/4/2015 07:44:31 pm
To Kian...
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Neddy
22/4/2015 09:29:48 pm
Thank you so much for this meaningful letter Dr. Sherman. Once and for all I would like to bring out the issues we have in Malaysia. Different people have different political views even if they're in the same religion. Even the same religion fight with each other for no better reason. Trying to show who's best at delivering what can be beneficial to the country. Even in the midst fighting they tend to pay respect for each other because we are all human and we have brains to think and heart to still love. If it's not for the morality we all would've been in war right now killing thousands of innocent people.
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keyboard warrior
22/4/2015 09:43:05 pm
tq for your letter. i on the other hand believe there will be justice for us muslims. its just a matter of time. he mocks every religion even the pope.
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selvarajan
22/4/2015 10:53:39 pm
Thank you so much for the comment. It is enough of destruction created by people, and we, no matter what religion we are or even atheist, should choose to live in harmony. We are intelligent complex being, so we should in fact act like one. It is so sad to see insensitive people that live among us, that cause greater destruction rather than building humanity among us human. Thanks again mr. Sherman.
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hazelle
23/4/2015 12:21:24 am
thank u so much Dr Sherman
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Mohamah Nawy
23/4/2015 12:28:09 am
Thanks Dr Sherman. True indeed Malaysians need more people like you.
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MY
23/4/2015 12:37:17 am
Assalamualaikum muslim brothers and sisters and greeting to all others here. I must admit that there was a brief moment in which I was caught up in what can be described by a rising wave of anger inside me when I started viewing this video. Only to realize at the end of the video that it was in fact more sad than offensive. A desperate and somewhat pathetic call for attention. Taking a positive spin from the whole thing, we as muslims should, despite what people like Alvin do or say, be compassionate, uphold peace and be rational. Perhaps, Alvin has been "chosen" to show us what not to be...perhaps he is to open the eyes of others on what Islam is about...we do not know ALLAH's grand plan...only that there is a plan. Please view the King of Jordan's address to the European Parliament. A much better use of everyone's time I assure you...
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NAB
23/4/2015 03:40:55 am
I totally agree with you MY..!
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ct
23/4/2015 01:28:42 am
Thank you sir..
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Dr Kohila
23/4/2015 01:53:23 am
Thank you Dr Sherman...u hve expressed my very own sentiments. I come from a small town where all of us, regardless of race and religion, lived amicably n peacefully respecting each other n their beliefs. Im distraught to know tht my grandchl cannot and will not hve this sort of environment to grow up in!! I want my beloved former Msia back.
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Mandy Sim
23/4/2015 02:00:57 am
Dear Dr Sherman,
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23/4/2015 02:01:51 am
Dear Sir, I would just like to express my appreciation and gratitude for the message you wrote. I find it a refreshing moment of sanity in an increasingly insane world.
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Philip Sta. Maria
23/4/2015 02:29:05 am
Dear Rev. Deacon Sherman....someone had to say this & you said it well! God Bless!
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Nabila Jamil
23/4/2015 02:30:36 am
Dear Reverend,
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AT
23/4/2015 02:38:43 am
Nothing more than an overgrown child lashing out in desperate search of attention And his atrocious singing is not doing him any favours.
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obo
23/4/2015 02:52:30 am
In a hadis, it was said that in one incident a man had peed in a mosque in Madinah. The sahabats wanted to punish him in a very cruel manner. The Prophet Muhammad instead, told the sahabat not to do so. He instead called the man and forgive him for his action to urinate in a holy and sacred place, the mosque.
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Bard Doc
23/4/2015 05:48:19 am
Alvin might not be a religious person or he may just be someone who is a pagan or a heretic...therefore he might not be sensitive towards other religion...
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23/4/2015 06:41:29 am
I do think that the reply to Alvin by Rev Sherman is a little pointed but graceful and good hearted.
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Danny Quest
23/4/2015 08:12:37 am
I agree. What we all should do is stop trolling on the internet. People like Alvin will continue to surface and by giving them a response only fuels their cause(s).
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Unbelievable
23/4/2015 07:32:12 am
To Kian,
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Logos
23/4/2015 08:20:08 am
Interesting discussion about the boundaries of respect and insult from an atheist or theist standpoint.
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jd
24/4/2015 04:11:07 pm
In response to Logos.
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jasmin elly
23/4/2015 08:39:17 am
Wooooow!......what a F.......Sh........Alvin very disguting n its doesn' t reflect that your are a human being with God's given brain......worst then Animal.
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GG
23/4/2015 09:45:17 am
where is kian? why you keep silence????i am christian but i do RESPECT all religions including YOU...
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Moses
23/4/2015 10:53:15 am
Kian is Alvin!
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HE
23/4/2015 02:45:45 pm
In response to Mr Kian
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Kian
24/4/2015 07:09:49 am
@HE: Dumb question. Religions are everywhere and affects everyones lives for the good and bad. Your mum is probably unknown and she most likely doesn't affect anyone else. Your claim doesn't stand. Think before you speak.
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Truly Malaysian
23/4/2015 03:31:47 pm
Well said Dr Sherman. I think Alvin needs to be more careful. In America there are many muslim extremists that ever willing to eradicate those making fun of their beliefs. He has to be very careful if that video falls to the hand of the extremists. What he did is not a joke. He has to know that.
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American
24/4/2015 01:42:27 am
I'm an American and don't know of any 'muslim extremists" in America. Don't get brainwashed by the media.
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wolf
23/4/2015 05:08:01 pm
Kian,
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Kian
24/4/2015 05:39:15 am
@wolf: You might just be the biggest dumbass I've encountered in this thread. =)
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Your mom
25/4/2015 03:18:12 pm
No one has seen your mom cause she left you as a baby, knowing how much of a scum you're going to be.
kayy
23/4/2015 05:26:05 pm
I refuese to be bothered by Alvin. Alvin is just like a naughty boy who wants attention. Kinda like my students in class yg tak cukup kasih sayang tu. He's an attention whore. He is practically a nobody in the US and nobody gives a flying eff about him. In Malaysia, he is somewhat known for his sexual exploits and shockingly shabby decision making skills. So, he be like "Urgh, I am so bored. Nobody cares about me. Gonna act out and piss off some Malaysians, to make sure they remember me. I really miss their attention on me." Hence the idiotic reciting the azan half naked with a keyboard. Gosh, he is so pathetic. He is so afraid people in Malaysia will forget him. So he decided to do shocking things in hope of being remembered. You know kinda like Miley Cyrus' on the 2013 VMA when she twerked amd grinded against Robin Thicke. Like he is so desperate for validation or response to ensure that he is memorable. That he still matters.. well, you're don't, Alvin. You're spam, a total waste of space. I hope you do something stupid like this again and get what u deserve. Please, by all means. And where is Kian...he probably misses Alvin's orgy videos...
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Junbug
23/4/2015 09:09:30 pm
From what I see people are arguing over what Alvin did and claiming that it is rude and insulting. Furthermore when Kian tries to argue the fact that he is not changing the words in the prayers to insult the religion and that he is merely repeating the prayers to a different tune as (this is a example no more no less and gives no regard to Alvin's religion)certain christian groups would do with their own religious songs. Yet everyone claims that it is a mockery of and an insult towards people who practice the religion. Does anyone here know what the word mockery means? What about insult? Did he alter the prayer in any way using teasing and contemptuous language? Did he insult the religion in any way? Did he slander the god or religion? Did he disparage or discredit Islam?
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tom
24/4/2015 01:32:54 am
Thank you very much Dr. Sherman for a superb letter! Alvin deserves it.
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Zarul
24/4/2015 02:35:18 am
Thumbs up Dr Sherman.. Mr Alvin Tan TQVM..
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Haslina Ibrahim
24/4/2015 05:05:44 am
Dear Rev. Thank you very much.
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24/4/2015 07:39:49 am
Alvin/ Kian,
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Kian
24/4/2015 09:06:44 am
Thanks for your video link, but I know who Yusuf Estes is and I'm not really too fond of him. Anyway, my point is this: I don't believe that religion changes people, people change themselves through religion based on their views. perspectives and experiences.
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Kian
24/4/2015 09:08:53 am
Didn't your religion teach you to be peaceful, loving and compassionate? Or is it true that your religion is one that is aggressive, violent and intolerant as shown by you? Showing your true colours already eh? hehe
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Angel
24/4/2015 11:18:44 pm
They dont see your point..i do. What you have expressed and written is merely to state a point.. the responses you get is totally out of point..they dont read deep enough...anyway i dont want to say much... Showing your true colours already eh? hehe ...hehe?....hehe? laughing ? even your laugh shows your HATRED ..."Showing your true colours already eh?...." Ready to POUNCE KIAN? Ready to KILL KIAN? am not surprised...with all that HATRED IN YOU, i'am sure you're CAPABLE MUCH MORE than that
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Alloycious Smitch
24/4/2015 10:31:41 am
to all of us,
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Pat
24/4/2015 10:03:00 am
Haha, another attention seeker here. Guys, just ignore him. You know he could go on and on and on, that's what attention seeker do.
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apamau
24/4/2015 11:03:17 am
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Aby
24/4/2015 02:49:57 pm
Let us all pray that he will one day regretted his wrongdoings and repent.
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Zabidi shabaneh
24/4/2015 04:56:02 pm
Do not respect their GOD but pls respect what they believe.
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Zac Chew
25/4/2015 12:21:33 am
If given the chance, i would personally slap this SH Alvin
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luna
25/4/2015 01:57:23 am
@Kian
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Batman
25/4/2015 10:05:12 am
Why waste time with kian when the letter was meant for alvin.... Anyway both are equally short curcuit
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Brian
27/4/2015 02:31:58 am
Dear all, let's just be appreciative to the original author off this letter instead off bashing one another. I believe all Religion in this world speaks about respecting one another. There are individuals here calling for Alvins head to be removed. Please don't play GOD .., no religion preeches violence or hatred - if you have nothing encouraging or good to say , pls be quiet . As I was reading all the comments I could not believe some comments being shared here which were utterly shameful as the subject was about Religion!! There is no place for bad language nor hatred in any religion as GOD always spoke off 'LOVE, RESPECT , OBEIDIENCE ..no man can say that he was carrying out GOD's work by taking another's life nor disrespecting another religion . Come on people share some love....
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Emmanuel Onjewu
27/4/2015 08:24:02 am
Well conceived, well written Dr. Kuek
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